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The Course of the Symptoms.

To Speak is to Suffer, or the Three

Temporal Moments of the Fundamental Symptom in a Psychoanalysis

Hourik Zakarian

To speak is to suffer, because it is not pure speech.

One

cannot say everything.

Something is always lost, and that is

a risk that I am taking today.

That is also what analysands who

come to see us for the talking cure do:

they come with their

suffering and their symptoms.

They come to speak so as to get

rid of their symptons.

There is also an easy kind of talk, that of blah blah:

« HOw

are you »;

« it’s a nice day today »; « looks like it’s gonna rain »,

etc.

But there is also what you hear on the couch in the well-

meaning and well thought out discourses of « good analysands » who

blither at a 1055, so to speak, in other words to purely

mask

what they don’t want to know.

There are simple silences with the

same aim as well.

As soon as speech is easy (and silence is but

one of its forms), everything is comfortable, and the feeling of comfort, like all feelings, is misleading.

As soon as speech (in

whatever form) is difficult, we are not far from anxiety,

the

only true affect, as , everyone knows –

true in the sense of the

subject’s truth.

But let us come back to our analysand who comes to us to speak so that his symptom will disappear.

What will be the fate

in store for his symptom?

That is the question I would like to

address today.

In the very demand to begin an analysis, which

thus consists in coming « to speak so that the symptom disappear », we see the whole paradox of the subject in question. For how can speaking make symptoms disappear,

when the fundamental symptom

is, if you will, speaking itself, in the sense of being in the field of speech?

In this vein, one might say that the psychotic

is the normal subject who is not affected by this fundamental symptom.

Nevertheless, there are psychotie subjects who request

analysis.

Michel Sylvestre proposed that we take as the

psychotic’s symptom the surplus and threatening signification which cannot come into being because of the lack of a privileged signifier, namely the Name-of-the-Father.

This signification he

lacks is produced by the construction of a metaphor which takes the place of the paternal metaphor.

One can thus perhaps speak,

in any case, of a substitutional symptom as well. For those who don’t have any symptoms are in big trouble!

One cannot do

without symptoms.

One of our colleagues spoke of the necessity

of symptoms in reporting that one of his analysands, though

relieved of his symptoms through psychoanalysis, found himself 

led into even worse straights.

Even normality is a symptom, and

it is probably the most uncurable.

Thus if the symptom cannot

disappear, what happens to it in the course of an analysis?

and

at the end of an analysis?

Let us recall for the record a definition of the symptom which Lacan provides in his Seminar R.S. I. (Real, Symbolic, Imaginary).

« I define the symptom by the way in which each

person derives jouissance from the unconscious, insofar as unconscious determines that person. » This definition of

the

symptom by forms of jouissance contains within it the fact that there is always something which remains incurable, as there is always one form or another of jouissance, even if not all use-values of jouissance are equivalent.

If something changes in a

subject’s symptom during treatment, that clearly has something to do with his form of jouissance.

In what way does this form of

jouissance change in the course of analysis? This is another way of posing the question of the symptom, about which the subject 

complains when he requests to start an analysis and with which he contents himself at the end of the treatment, for a change in its jouissance value has taken place in the interim, allowing the symptom to change forms, the jouissance it provides no longer having the same value, unburdened, as it is, of its surplus 

joui ssance.

How does treatment operate on the symptom’s jouissance, if

not by transference and interpretation, the two mainsprings of psychoanalysis, which do not, however, bounce all by themselves.

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turn now more directly to the theme of this workshop 

concerning transference and interpretation.

A psychoanalysis consists in the interpretation of desire

insofar, as Jacques-Alain Miller has said, as « The unconscious is itself its interpretation. »

Interpretation is what operates in an analysis, and everyone

knows that interpretation is of no value without transference.

There is thus no such thing as

interpretation without

transference.

It is transference which gives the analyst his

specific status from which he can interpret, when the time comes,

even if the status of his interpretation, insofar as such, 

becomes clear only after the fact.

Let me take this oppurtunity

to say that interpretation can only be recognized in its effects,

i.e.

after the fact.

An analyst who, concerning a particular analysand, would say to himself one fine morning when in a particularly good state of mind,

« Okay;

today I think I’ll give

him an interpretation, » would be getting off to a bad start.

An

interpretation cannot be programed because of its very nature.

And even if one can speak of the calculation or calculus of interpretation, the question here is more one of an uncalculated calculation, in that it is not conspired, forseen or programed by the analyst (as opposed to the explanation of sense or meaning).

The effects of his act will determine whether or not it

constitutes an interpretation.

This leads us to wonder what the effects of interpretation

are.

They are not the kinds of effects the analysand expects 

when he requests analysis. What, in fact, does the analysand ask for? For his symptoms to disappear and for his suffering to 

stop. In other words, he demands that the prosthesis he found in the form of his symptom, which fended off what certain people 

call the foreclosure of

sex;

or otherwise stated, which

supplemented the empty relationship, the void of that place where the partner lacks, i.e. the fact that there is no sexual relation

-_ he demands to longer need that prosthesis, but not to get rid

of it any old which way.

What he demands is to no longer have

his prosthesis (his symptom) — and here let us take the example of a one-legged man’s wooden leg — not because he will be

satisfied to walk with one single leg, but because his second leg

will have grown back.

In other words, what the analysand wants

is to find the knowledge which would erase the « fault » (in the

geological sense of the word) which constitutes the fundamental trauma of existence.

This knowledge which would erase the fault, this knowledge which he takes to be the only worthwile knowledge, that which concerns sex, he attributes this knowledge to the psychoanalyst

aS the subject-supposed-to-know.

He asks the

psychoanalyst to give him this knowledge which would remedy the

fact that there is no such thing as a sexual relation (i.e.

that

the difference between the sexes is nowhere inscribed in the unconscious). In situating worthwhile knowledge in the analyst’s chair, he says at the same time thereby to what extent he is terrified by (and hates) his own knowledge (in the place of truth), about which he obviously does not want to know anything, and which he carefully hides behind his symptom.

This fault or

division

— whose subject he refuses to be, for which he feels

guilty, which he tries to avoid, mask and disavow, paying the price of suffering, however great it may be — it is this very fault or division which makes him give up on his desire, or sell out (on) his own desire (as Stuart Schneiderman has said in his seminar), to take refuge in the jouissance of the symptom in the real.

« One is more or less guilty of the real », according to 

Lacan.

The analysand, at the beginning of the treatment, does

not see things in exactly that way.

For him, guilt is born from

division.

The superego, which makes him feel guilty, imposes the

imperative of jouissanc upon him.

The love one directs at one’s

analyst in transference-love is thus love for the subject-supposed-to-know, in other words, as Lacan says, « It is love, not

desire, which is directed at knowledge. »

One sees thus how, on

the basis of a request to begin analysis, addressed to a supposed knowledge, correlated with a relation to knowledge, in other words to signifiers, the analysand enters into transference love, a necessary but insufficient condition for analysis to take place (insufficient in that there is always plenty of transference to psychoanalytic knowledge, one might even say that it is always on our hands, but that we are not for all that in an analytic position to do something with it which would permit us to interpret.

We can only try to keep from sinking beneath. these

muddy waters, from which institutions — including psychoanalytic ones — are not immune).

The transference love which comes into being and becomes the analysand’s new symptom, or rather the symptom’s second temporal moment, always has the function of masking his division, though this time taking advantage of the analytic situation, and the relation to knowledge it brings with it.

Transference love is also the new link between the subject’s

lies and resitances concerning his truth.

If the anal ysand

attributes knowledge to the analyst because of love, we know that the analyst is not the depository of the subject’s knowledge

about his symptom, for he too is barred from this knowledge.

Which is not to be forgotten, for he could direct the analysand’s treatment such that the question of desire would be isolated in

the quagmire of love, or any other affect — it is not to be

forgotten, as I mentioned, for if the analyst forgets this, what 

happens?

In other words, if the analyst thinks he holds in his

hands knowledge about his analysand’s symptom, he thus places

himself as the one who knows and not in the position of pretence

or semblance (implied by the term « subject-supposed-to-know »),

which is to say that he functions as a mirror with his nalysand, in relation to the question of knowledge, consenting thereby to the belief that there is knowledge which can palliate the lack of a sexual relation.

Otherwise stated, he would be in

the same position in relation to the symptom as the analysand, in the same « I don’t want to know anything about it », except that he would be seated in the armchair instead of lying on

the couch.

This is what happens when the analyst involves himself

in

making scholarly interventions about the analysand’s existence and the reasons for his functioning — interventions he

calls

interpretations but which are of the following type:

« you are

taking me for your mother »,

« you desire your mother without

letting on to your father »,

« your Oedipal complex is making you

feel guilty »

— or even in the interrogatory form:

« wasn’t it

your right eye you glued to the keyhole to watch your sister when she was naked? », this question being addressed to an analysand blind in the right eye.

Such statements could turn out to be

correct, but not true, in the sense that the correctness of a 

statement doesn’t stop it from masking all the more the truth of

the lacking sexual relation.

This question of the analyst’s

relation to knowledge has, as we see, many repercussions on the direction of the treatment, and thus of the handling of the 

transference and the practice of interpretation.

Here I would like to recount two clinical vignettes related

to the questions of knowledge and interpretation.

The first consists in a sentence one of our colleagues

quoted from one of his analysands, which runs as follows:

former shrink, he told me my life story really well! »

The second was an intention manifested by one of my analysands who had come to me to do a second stage of

analysis,

an intention which she declared to me during a session in

which

She quickly told a couple of dreams and then politely lapsed into

silence for a while, leaving me the time to provide

explanation.

Seeing that no explanation was forthcoming,

she

then said, « my unconscious is not answering », complaining thereby that her analysis wasn’t working as she had hoped, that it

was

useless to dream as the gods invoked weren’t taking their cue by

casting light on the dark night of her symptoms.

If the first analysand is to be believed, the interpretation which concerns meaning, in wanting to restore the meaning of his life and fantasies to the subject, doesn’t change anything related to the question with which the subject came into

analysis.

In other words it has hardly any cutting effect as to

the subject’s jouissance.

If the second analysand is to be

believed, the unconscious — as that which escapes the analysand in question — can be measured as well in terms of the analyst’s silence regarding what she desperatedly tried to obtain: that her

analyst interpret her unconscious, interpreting here, of course, to be understood as saying to her what it is, as making her understand through explanations providing meaning – much as she

does herself, for, so as to fallstall any faults, she spends her

sessions, as this vignette shows, interpreting her

OWn

unconscious in the register of meaning:

« she said this because

her father did that… she does that because of her mother…;

she believed this because of her fantasy…; » and so on.

clearly see here that this style, brought to bear on all this

material by analysands who have been through this before coming to us, is that of a type of psychoanalysis which falls into the 

register of meaning.

We know that meaning equals narrative equals imaginary.

Let us notice then that, in this sense,

as concerns the

with all that it brings

transference, analysands’ jouissance, was not at all

relieved,

with it which is impossible to bear,

despite the call for that implied in their request to start analysis.

We thus see that, if the analyst’s symptom jives with the analysand’s symptom — in the sense of a symptom whose function is to close off the question of lack — the main operation which should take place in treatment cannot, this operation being displacement of the Other’s knowledge to the subject, displacement which requires the time allotted to the 

transference, a time which is necessary so that the analysand can

strip the Other of its false consistency

= as the supposed

possessor of knowledge — reducing it at the end of the treatment to the cause of his division.

In this displacement of knowledge,

a

transformation takes place simultaneously in the relation to

knowledge and in knowledge itself as well.

In effect,

knowledge, like the symptom, does not have the same consistency

at the beginning and at the end of treatment.

As we have seen,

at the beginning we are dealing with imaginary knowledge, and 

that in relishing in it the subject avoids symbolic castration,

giving himself over to the jouissance of the real as impossible

to bear, namely the symptom.

Real, symbolic and imaginary can

thus be found there in a certain configuration. Now, if there is

knowledge at the end of the treatment, it is obviously of another

sort, the correlate of this being that the symptom at the end is also of another sort than at the beginning and during the transference. The knowledge at the end is not a surplus-knowledge, it is not knowledge like one might conceive of it in

academia, i.e. a knowledge of facts and reasons.

It is rather

knowledge which translates in terms of processes of loss.

It is

a

knowledge of production but unlike industrial processes it has to do withproducing loss!

Loss of what?

Loss of jouissance, jouissance whose

calculation in an analysand’s dictums — dictums and not words, words, words, « parole, parole, parole » as the Italian song goes)

— produces knowledge in terms of loss of jouissance. So how can

as it is there that the results

one move from words to dictums, of treatment are played out?

Blithering speech turns around in

circles in the imaginary, and that can last a dog’s age! For the analysand to produce a dictum, in other words, a truth about his jouissance, in traversing his fantasm which masks the Other’s castration, he must not expect it.

There again, it is not

planable ahead of time, as if one were to make good resolutions

for the next session of the emeritus analysand who decides to

show his hand in a well-thought-out strategy.

It is even

usually the contrary, being through surprise and the unexpected that he acceeds to the truth of his dictum as « an intrusion of a

signifier » (as Jacques-Alain Miller has said.

Interpretation

operates in this same way.

In order to open things up towards a

new dictum, interpretation must surprise, cut, astonish, not be exactly understood, be equivolcal, enigmatic and splitting.

It

does not even have to be understood by the analyst himself at the

very moment at which he poses his act, « understood » in the sense

that he would not know in advance all the ins and outs

of the

analysand.

This is what I Called earlier the uncalculated

calulation of interpretation, which is to say that interpretation itself is a dictum of the analyst, sustained by his

desire as

analyst.

His desire as analyst is not based on fantasy,

nor is

it willing to collaborate with the subject’s jouissance.

This

uncalculated interpretation is thus not transmittable through solely technical rules.

We see that this conception of treatment

hAG

major

consequences on its direction, for interpretation has nothing to do with empathy, but rather goes at times against the grain, striking in a place where the analysand does not expect it.

It

is thus that equivocal or surprising interpretation,

which

produces an effect that looks like an enigma, traversing the imaginary so as to isolate the place of the object, hidden behind

This isolation of the object leads to the

the symptom.

displacement of its aim at the beginning of the treatment to a position of cause, the cause of the subject’s split or division.

The object of jouissance is the same and it is because of that

that there is always a symptom, an incurable one. The object has

simply changed places, as has the symptom.

One could say that

the symptom is like the fifth wheel of a cart which follows the

other four: R, S, I and – 1. It has to adapt to the situation,

its function changing as the other elements change in the course

of analysis.

The symptom moves from having

a

function of

filling in and masking lack, to that of being a product or fruit of lack, as interpretation of the metaphor of the symptom brings

the subject towards the minus

earlier the fundamental symptom.

of castration, which I called

That is why we can say

that

there is an identification with one’s symptom at the

end of

analysis.

In 1975, Lacan situates the end of treatment in this way.

This identification with the symptom is such that the subject

becomes

satisfied with this new symptom, or rather this symptom

dressed in new clothes.

This is another type of symptomatic

supplementation, very different from that of transference

love

which must be transitory.

The third version of the symptom has

thus the particularity of being satisfying.

Which is not exactly

banal for a symptom!

That it be satisfying is even a condition

of the third type of symptom, and it is a condition of the end of analysis as well.

Lacan says that there is an end-satisfaction

which must be urgently provided, and it is on this very point that I will urgently end my talk today, in commenting that this

statement by Lacan emphasizes that the end of analysis is not situated at a point of dissatisfaction or of being completely fed

up and listless, which would imply that the analysand was still wrapped up in transference love — the hate version or aspect and as such any attempt to break off the analysis would simply amount to an acting out, similar to identification with one’s

analyst.

But on the contrary, this tipping of the scales which signals the end of analysis takes place under duresse (just like the beginning of analysis) and is accompanied by the satisfaction of having dug up a bearable symptom.

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